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George

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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 8:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

A Nu-view zooming problem: I have a Sony DCR-PC10E camera. When I zoom with Nu-View attached, the picture immediately gets out of focuse (completely blurred) and takes 2-3 secs for the autofocus to readjust. What is wrong? Is it normal, or a setting somewhere in the
menu ...?

Another question: to play interlaced stereo produced by Nu-View I try to use Zoomplayer. I do not see stereo unless I hit >> (fast play), then it clics into stereo mode smoothly. This happens with both my Asus and H3D glasses. Any idea why?(WinXP, Asus 6600, Nvidia 40.72, Stereo 4xx)


George
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M.H.

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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

George: It is normal. In anddition be very careful
during zooming - you can get parts of NuView in the picture ...
Ai am not sure how you can play in Zoom player
stereoscopicaly ... Do you use line-blanking ?
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George

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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 8:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Michal,
I try to use Zoomplayer with H3D in Win XP using Eye3D Activator 2.0. in interlaced (line blanking?) mode. This works with >> fastplay. The other problem problem is that it is always reversed stereo, and I do not know how to switch it (except that I reverse my glasses). Above/below 60Hz,640x480 works OK, but it is a long process to prepare...

How would you view non processed interlaced avi or DV format with H3D or with ASUS glasses? I am desperately experimenting with everithing but so far could not find a way that works all the time.
George
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M.H.

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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 11:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

George: if you want to do some proffesional work in this area the DepthQ (see software section of www.depthq3d.com) is a solution ... Unforuntatly this software was developed mainly for hi-quality projection and is a lot expensive. Convert to over/under in Premiere or in VDub or try to use 3D combine ...
Myabe my old WINX3D player will work as well:
http://mysak.umbr.cas.cz/~husakm/Public/Win3dVideo/Win3dStereoscopicVideoPlayer.htm
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Puppet Kite Kid

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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You should be able to simply switch on your glasses, then open an interlaced image or video and view it, _as long_ as the image is viewed in the same resolution as it was encoded at... sometimes that is the tricky part. Also, moving the image up or down on your monitor reverses the image. (obviously, you can't do this with fullscreen view, so you'd then have to reverse/toggle your glasses.)
For example, if your interlaced image is 640 x 480, you have to play it at that resolution. (without going through a deinterlace-resize-reinterlace editing process) You can carefully drag it open in Zoom Player to that resolution, or find a media player that will open it at that resolution. I think changing your monitor display to 640 x 480 and using fullscreen mode works, too, as long as you can do this with your setup. I just get used to resizing the media player, and Windows MP is the worst for this, IMO... sometimes impossible to get to work.
Many times, I have to use VirtualDub to change resolutions to something I can use... just deinterlace or use the "ViewFields" 3rd party filter (again, I don't have the URL handy... search google), resize to whatever works, then reinterlace or "UnViewFields". BTW, an AviSynth script like this should render very quickly, compared to VirtualDub, if rendering time is a problem.

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Puppet Kite Kid

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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You also wrote: "How would you view non processed interlaced avi or DV format with H3D or with ASUS glasses?"

A/B (or over/under) format?
I use the old Headspace 3DMoviePlus *freeware* program under WinME... a great tool for on the fly over/under to interlaced viewing.
In VirtualDub (or possibly a faster AviSynth... but VirtualDub is pretty fast!), to convert over/under to interlaced (actually, interleaved for line-blanking), use the "UnViewFields" filter. I just located the URL:
http://www.geocities.com/siwalters_uk/unviewfields.html
I'm always working with short little segments, so I would figure out an AviSynth alternative script if I wanted to convert a movies, if possible... open it in VirtualDub, and as long as you don't add any VirtualDub filters, the rendering can be extremely fast!
Also, I have wondered if on the fly viewing is possible with an AviSynth script... it probably is, especially with a *faster* computer :-)

PKK
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George

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Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Nichal,PPK, many thanks for both of you.

PKK: this means that my PAL video should be viewed in a 720x576 window? I will try today.

To convert to A/B over/under format does the ViewFields convert faster with AviSynth than with Virtualdub?

George
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Puppet Kite Kid

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Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The "UnViewFields" filter is the one that converts A/B to interlaced. "ViewFields" converts interlaced to A/B.
In this case, the AviSynth version is a plugin, so this appears to slow down the rendering, compared to the normal filters. You could just use the VirtualDub version... or try both and see if one is faster.
I've just started using AviSynth more than ever, and have noticed that at least some (or all?) of the normal filters (but apparently not the plugins) seem to render very fast, compared to VirtualDub filters.
BTW, the VirtualDub "UnViewFields" filter doesn't seem to render deathly slow... and I think the number of filters you stack makes a difference in render speed, too.
At least we have the options to play with!

HTH
PKK
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Puppet Kite Kid

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Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

You also asked: "This means that my PAL video should be viewed in a 720x576 window?"
Open any video in VirtualDub (some media players will show you this, too) and go to "File" and "File Information". Look at the frame size. _That_ is the resolution you have to view it at. So, yes, If your video is 720 x 576, that's how it has to be viewed... unless you deinterlace it, resize it, then reinterlace it.

PKK
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George

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Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thanks a lot. George

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