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Taiki

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Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ok, since i have seen many people had problems in the other topic i have made things easier in this one. This is what EXACTLY i did after having formatted and freshly installed everything and it works

PS : Stereovision still flickers on Win XP (especially during hd activities). Wasn't able to solve this one.

first of all this is my configuration :

Athlon Thunderbird 700 Mhz
Abit KT7 Raid
256 Mega Ram PC 133
Elsa GeForce 2 Ultra
SoundBlaster Live
IBM DTLA 30 Giga
Elsa Revelator
Windows XP Home and Windows 98 Second Edition(both italian version)

(WIN 98)

1) Installed generic Detonator 22.80. It works even with latest but i prefer 22.80 for they are not certified (so you won't have any "cannot find dialog 85" problem) and watching comparisons i noticed they are better with my video card.
2) Installed latest StereoDriver
3) Disabled V-Sync (both in Direct3D and OpenGL) and FSAA
4) Went to registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ NVIDIACorporation \ Global \ Stereo3D

and changed Stereoviewer key value (to 1 if you have Elsa Revelator, 2 if you have ASUS glasses).
5) Installed HzTool and blocked refresh rate at desidered resolutions
6) Launched medical test and activated stereovision


(Win XP)

1) Installed generic Detonator 22.80. It works even with latest but i prefer 22.80 for they are not certified (so you won't have any "cannot find dialog 85" problem) and watching comparisons i noticed they are better with my video card.
2) Installed latest StereoDriver
3) Installed GeForce Tweak Utility
4) Opened GTU and on the STEREO3D panel clicked on MAKE IT WORK button
5) Disabled V-Sync (both in Direct3D and OpenGL) and FSAA (you can do that with GTU as well)
6) Installed Nvidia Refresh Rate Fix and blocked refresh rate at desidered resolutions
7) Launched medical test and activated stereovision
8) Went to registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ NVIDIACorporation \ Global \ Stereo3D

and changed Stereoviewer key value (to 1 if you have Elsa Revelator, 2 if you have ASUS glasses).

hope it works with you as well

i repeat, this is EXACTLY what i did. Didn't install anything else.
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Taiki

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Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Addendum : i had previously removed pins 12 and 15 from monitor cable (don't do that with Elsa Y cable) to make my glasses stop flickering when turning on stereovision (that was caused since my monitor supports DDC 1)
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Taiki

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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 1:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Errata Corrige : i had written something wrong. For both Win 98 and XP installation, V-Sync must be turned ON (and not disabled as i wrote) in both Direct3D and OpenGL and FSAA must be turned OFF
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Andreas

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Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 2:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hello Taiki,

thank you for your advices! Have anyone tested yet whether one can use both, professional OpenGL Stereo and game stereo? For this you should install RivaTuner and apply the SoftQuadro patch to get the quadbuffered stereo api setting in the OpenGL settings dialog. Then you install the StereoE.exe from Nvidia. Doing so I cannot get both to work. If I have enabled game stereo my OpenGL stereo applications crash. Any ideas?
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hello Taiki

thank you for the advice!

I have the flickering since i've installed the Liveware drivers on windows 2000.

with the standard sblive basic drivers (providede with windows 2000) the problem doesnt appear.

By using only the quadro path to get stereo work ,the flickering also appeared after install of the creative drivers.

(But the problem didn't disappeared after uninstall of the creative drivers. so i needed a reinstall of win 2000 to got things work again)

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On windows xp there is was no chance to solve the problem with the sblive because the basic drivers are nearly the same that are provided with the liveware package.

so i bought a dmx x-fire 1024. by using the generic xp drivers the flickering was completly gone.

(complete new installation of xp was needed because there were fragments of the creative drivers left after the uninstallation)

after the install of the terratec drivers for the soundcard, there was very little flickering sometimes on heavy load.

so now who is to blame ?


My System:
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athlon 800
asus k7v (via kx133)
creative sblive [terratec dmx x-fire 1024]
win 2000 [win xp]
nvidia geforce ddr (23.11 + stereo drivers)

(sorry for my bad english)
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romanov

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Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi there!

I installed Nvidia StereoE.exe instead of ELSA's.
I tried to lower the resolution from 1024*768, 85Hz to 800*600, 100Hz in order to increase refresh rate, but Revelater didn't work either. I turned off DDC option in my monitor OSD. What else I can do? It's really boring!!!

System spec.
Celeron 800, Win xp pro, GeForce2 MX(Leadtek)
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Taiki

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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 12:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

sorry for the delay but i am very busy with university so i cannot really check this webboard a lot.

if you have got problems please contact me on ICQ (28959062) or on MSN messanger (taiki21@hotmail.com)

PS : on Win XP i was not able to remove flickering though i have seen on this webboard people tell they use Win XP with no flickering at all, so i guess it is possible, but still haven't found a way to do that
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James Buttle

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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

This thread has got me the furthest I have been yet! BUT...

(I have done the procedure at the top, used detonator 22.80 and stereo driver 56.72. Used GeForce Tweak Utility v3.2 and set as above)

When playing a game the screen flickers showing a proper 3d type picture. (great!)

HOWEVER

My glasses do absolutely nothing.

Please help me fix this!!!!!
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Anonymous

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Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2004 - 1:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

James it sounds as if you have a faulty pair of glasses. I would try another pair.
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gogou

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Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 11:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

ok I maibe have a clue about it. Got a ti4200 with a pair of Elsa revelator and it wasn't able to shut till this morning :D What did I do ? ok I tell you but you can find it also on this forum. I've disable the pin number 12 on the vga connector. This pin is the pin for DDC1 (communication between the monitor and the graphique card. basicaly the monitor tell his setting to the graphique card to be able to use it in plug and play mode). The glasses use also that information bus to get the sync. So you have three solutions to do this. 1)Ccut directly the pin on the monitor connector (NOT THE GLASSES ONE) but you will lose the waranty DDC1 will not work anymore. 2) Install old 22.72 driver from nvidia, DDC1 wasn't implemented yet in that version but lol it doesn"t support 6800GT so it is not an option. 3) Built a VGA male to female adaptator without the pin 12. Harder but better :) hope it can help
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James Buttle

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 12:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thank you again for your advice.

I grabbed the nearest pair of pliers and ripped out pin 12.

Uninstalled the newer drivers I had since put back on.... AND COMPLETELY FAILED TO GET THE PICTURE IN STEREO. I am back where I started again. sigh.

While I am here, can anyone tell me if I need to do anything special with my graphics cards drivers... I run an Elsa Gladiac 920, which I believe is quadro based. When getting the detonator I need the proper quadro driver else it does nto work entirely well.

If I am to put on an old detonator driver to get this to work, do I need a GeForce Detonator, or is there a specific Quadro Drivers... If so, how do I recognise it?

Thank you in advance

James Buttle
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 7:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Lovely. Made my day (which is saying something)
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 4:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Super site darlings. Thanks awfully

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