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     3d-geek (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Anyone heard any news of the vintage Hollywood flicks that were supposed to be released in Sensio format? http://www.sensio.tv/en/home_theater/3d_dvd/soon/default.3d | ||
| Greg Kintz (Gregk) New member Username: Gregk Post Number: 8 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Jaws 3-D was supposed to be the first Sensio release of the Universal titles in January. I'm not sure what the delay is. | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Junior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 35 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I am thinking this all can be filed under "too good to be true".... | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
Hi, in january 07 I wrote an email to sensio asking when the selling of the announced 3d-classics will start. here's the answer: "Wed. Jan. 16, 2007 Hello, Thank you for your interest in Sensio Technologies. Our 5 Universal Studios Classics (Creature from the Black Lagoon, It Came from Outer Space, Jaws 3D, Revenge of the Creature and Taza, Son of Cochise), will be released in SENSIO 3D DVD within the first 6 months of 2007, with Jaws 3D being the first one to be released. The re-mastering of the Universal Classics is taking somewhat longer than anticipated due to the poor quality of the original film elements. As I’m sure you will understand, a lot of these old films are not necessarily in good condition and require a tremendous amount of work, money and time to restore and re-master. But we will release them sooner than later. I hope this answers your questions." | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 43 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
i'll believe it when I see it. I have a hard time believing this company can stay afloat much longer... | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Intermediate Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 73 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
....first six months of 2007 or 2008? | ||
| Todd Moore (Todd3d) New member Username: Todd3d Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2007 Rating: N/A |
According to Sensio, Jaws 3-D and Taza will be out by the end of the year and the other three will be released through 2008. | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
bruhaha-I don't believe it until I can order the discs. it'll be interesting, too, wether the movies will be available on dvd or one of the new HD-format-discs. | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 49 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Yup. I contacted sensio as well and they confirmed that Jaws 3D will be released in December of this year. Unfortunately, they are ONLY being released in Sensio format and not HQFS. | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
hi, I own both HQFS and sensio versions of "shark boy lava girl" and "spy kids 3d". the so called "high quality field sequential " versions are of inferior picture quality compared to the sensio one, because of vertical aliasing. maybe one will not detect the difference on a tv screen, but when projected with a dlp-beamer, it i s obvious, that the sensio format, though it has reduced horizontal resolution, offers the more detailed images. field sequential 3d movies in general are not bad, but the folks who encoded that "hqfs" stuff did a bad job. if you look at the japanese "VHD" movies of the early 1980s, these even look better than "hqfs". | ||
| Scott Warren (Scott_warren) Junior Member Username: Scott_warren Post Number: 39 Registered: 8-2006 Rating: N/A |
May not be "vertical aliasing"; might be lowered temporal resolution because of the halved fps (because of the nature of "field-interlaced" method). Or Could be bad encoding, like you said. Sensio is obviously working closely with the studios, so they may be able to take advantage of better masters. Has anybody tried "combining" a [HQFS + Sensio + Anaglyph] to make a composite that is higher overall resolution? Scott | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 50 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
In a few months, I plan on getting a DLP projector. I'll have to check out the quality (or lack of quality) then. HQFS looks terrific on my TV! Besides, I don't have 3,000 bucks to shell out for a processor when I'm enjoying great 3D movies with my 50 dollar processor. I'm excited about the sensio studio releases, but I will probably end up buying "converted to FS" versions of the films for lack of money to get the processor. I have one title that was converted from Sensio to FS by a guy who frequents these forums and it looks great! I just can't justify $3,000 for slightly better resolution. | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
when I want to watch sensio movies on my 600 EURO cheapo dlp-beamer, I hook my computer via rgb-cable to it and watch it using peter wimmers stereoscopicplayer and nvidia or edimensional pageflipping. that works for HQFS, seniso, over-under, side-by-side and lots of other formats just wonderfully. nobody needs the 3000$ original sensio equipment to watch sensio movies, if you have a computer. mine is from 1993, a pentium IV 2,53 GHz. graphics card is a nvidia quadro 980 xgl, running in only agp 4x mode. you see, that's no witchcraft. by the way, the guy, who converted the movie from sensio to FS did a far better job than the guys who publish that "HQFS" stuff. they ought to take some lessons in how to resample video images when converting them. | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
That's true. Do they make wireless systems for computers? Where can I get them? I have some wireless shutter glasses already. They are the "terminator" style. Would they be compatible? I have "Spy Kids" on it's way to me in the mail in HQFS. I'll have to give my opinion on that one when I get it. The only "HQFS" stuff I have seen is the Imax movies that come with the system (Encounter, Haunted Castle, SOS planet, Ultimate Gs and Alien Adventure" They look pretty good to me (at least on my TV) | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
yes, there are wireless systems for computers. I got a lot of these wireless "terminator-glasses", they work with the nvidia-infra-red-emiter, the eDimensional infrared dongle and these wireless set-top-boxes they sell for regular crt-tv, mostly as aprt of the "imax 3d set".. I would be interested what size your tv is. on my 21 inch tv tube "hqfs" looks quite ok, but definitely not on a 2,40m x1,80m screen. the guys who manufacture theses "hqfs" discs only take lines of the existing video image away, so that leaves that heavy vertical aliasing. they should re-encode the image new, to avoid that. these artifacts got nothing to do with bad video masters or something. just with incompetent video encoding. people buying FS-versions of former sensio movies get a far better image quality compared to buying original "hqfs" at first hand. sad but true. having once compared "shark boy lava girl" in "hqfs" and sensio, there's no question left to me what looks better. I'll soon try to get some screenshots made to show you for comparison . | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 56 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Well... December is almost over and I haven't heard a word about "Jaws 3D" in Sensio? Anyone else heard anything? | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 107 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
still nothing...oh well... | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 57 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Well, I had a dream last night that I found a copy of Jaws 3D sensio at the video store down the street, but alas, it was only a dream, so I guess that doesn't count. I am quite happy with the version I have. It is AWESOME just to be able to watch it in 3D even if the quality isn't QUITE up to today's standards. It's still excellent! | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 58 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Well, I had a dream last night that I found a copy of Jaws 3D sensio at the video store down the street, but alas, it was only a dream, so I guess that doesn't count. I am quite happy with the version I have. It is AWESOME just to be able to watch it in 3D even if the quality isn't QUITE up to today's standards. It's still excellent! | ||
| Oliver Staubi (Staubi) New member Username: Staubi Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
I send them an email today. They told me, Jaws 3D will be available end of this month. we will see:-) | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 59 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Ha! That's what they told me last month! | ||
| Oliver Staubi (Staubi) New member Username: Staubi Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Can someone tell me, what is the special on the sensio systhem? is it a side by side version on a normal dvd? Thanks | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 7 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
yes, it is a side-by-side system on a regular dvd-video. thought on the technical side it delivers only half horizontal resoulution, it offers better image quality than most of these field-sequential-3d-dvds out there, and you don't need the expensive sensio hardware to play them back in 3d, an ordinary computer with peter wimmer's stereoscopicplayer software and fitting graphics adapter will do it. that's why everybody's burning for new sensio discs, but they aren't released, sensio corp. only knows why. perhaps they don't wanna sell some??? ;) | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 10 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
I know this may be getting people's hopes up but I just got some new news regarding Sensio DVD release dates... or better known as a "bigfoot sighting"  . http://movies3d.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=39#39 | ||
| Nahie (Nahie) New member Username: Nahie Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
There is no real difference between HQFS and Sensio format...both are 1/2 resolution (1/2 vertical for HQFS, 1/2 horizontal for Sensio). I have the Spy Kids 3D movie in both HQFS and Sensio, and play them using Peter Wimmer's Stereoscopic Player to two projectors with polarized filters. There is absolutely no difference between the two formats when they are upscaled using Stereoscopic player. How could there be any difference? At the end of the day, both formats are 1/2 resolution per eye at DVD resolution of 720x480. 1/2 vertical (720x240) or 1/2 horizontal (360x480)...still 1/2 resolution per eye. Well there is one difference...the audio on the Sensio Spy Kids 3D disc seems to be out of sync! It lags by about 1 second. I have tested many setups and concluded that it is encoded this way on the disc. The only possible way I could think that you might see a difference is if you are using a standalone DVD player that has a chroma upsampling bug and it cannot deal with interlaced video properly. This might have an adverse effect on HQFS as it uses interlacing. This problem was common in early DVD players but shouldn't be a problem with any DVD player sold in the last 5 years or so. This certainly is not a problem with computer playback. The only reason for the Sensio 3D format was to allow Sensio to sell an extremely expensive proprietary decoder (which you can bet they make a lot on), and charge twice the amount for their DVDs (Sensio DVDs retail for around $30 each, HQFS for $15-20 each). Eddie, if you can see a difference between the two formats, there is something wrong with your setup. The bandwidth is exactly the same for each format. The only reason I have some Sensio DVDs is because they have somehow convinced some movie studios to release in their format...and that is the only reason I own the few Sensio discs I do. | ||
| Greg Kintz (Gregk) New member Username: Gregk Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
>> How could there be any difference? At the end of the day, both formats are 1/2 resolution per eye at DVD resolution of 720x480. 1/2 vertical (720x240) or 1/2 horizontal (360x480)...still 1/2 resolution per eye. << I would still have to give Sensio the slight technical edge for two reasons- 1) Unlike field-sequential, Sensio uses a slight anamorphic squeeze to fit the two images into the space made for one. This offers the same benefit as 16x9 enhancement on standard 2D DVDs when played on wide screen displays. 3) Not only does field-sequential eliminate half the resolution, it also half drops the temporal rate in half. Sensio, with it's current encoding format, offers the option to avoid the temporal loss with alternative 3-D viewing options. (dual projection, high refresh shutter, etc...) I'm sure with all of the changes in the last few years (HD discs, 120hz displays, etc) Sensio will no doubt release a revamped 3-D Sensio decoder. | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 60 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
I love how each month when someone writes to Sensio, they say "Yes! We are definitely releasing these films in sensio format. Yeah... we'll have that ready... um... next month! | ||
| Nahie (Nahie) New member Username: Nahie Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
1) Unlike field-sequential, Sensio uses a slight anamorphic squeeze to fit the two images into the space made for one. This offers the same benefit as 16x9 enhancement on standard 2D DVDs when played on wide screen displays. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here. Even anamorphic DVDs are still 720x480...the same pixel resolution as non-anamorphic. They are just resized to be widescreen instead of full screen...anamorphic is still resizing the image. Both HQFS and Sensio are resized to a full 720x480 per eye, so I don't see how this would be a benefit for Sensio. It is still the exact same number of pixels per eye in either format. 3) Not only does field-sequential eliminate half the resolution, it also half drops the temporal rate in half. Sensio, with it's current encoding format, offers the option to avoid the temporal loss with alternative 3-D viewing options. (dual projection, high refresh shutter, etc...) I'm sure with all of the changes in the last few years (HD discs, 120hz displays, etc) Sensio will no doubt release a revamped 3-D Sensio decoder. This doesn't make any sense either. HQFS is essentially 30 progressive frames per eye. While I suppose Sensio could do 60 interlace frames per eye, they would be at 1/2 of 1/2 resolution (1/4 resolution) per eye, but at 60i vs 30p. It is the same old progressive vs. interlaced debate, but the end result is the same. Same number of pixels per second per eye. Have you actually compared the same movie in Sensio to HQFS? There is no difference once the two formats are decoded into their right and left video streams. The only somewhat convincing argument I've heard for side-by-side (Sensio) is that it is easier to encode that format into MPEG. This in theory might provide less blockiness, but all MPEG encoders now can support interlaced video for HQFS, so this is not an issue in practical use. | ||
| Greg Kintz (Gregk) New member Username: Gregk Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I'm sorry, as I was certainly not clear on the first point. ..It's never a good idea to post late at night. I meant to say the Sensio proposed variable squeeze would yield superior results over field-sequential. For example, if the aspect ratio of the original is 4x3, then yes, it would be an equal trade off. If a Scope (2.35:1) feature used a variable squeeze to make it totally fill the left side, then it would utilize more pixels than the field sequential version, which in turn would waste pixels on black bar area. There's been debate on if Sensio has included this in their processors as a encode/decode option. However, IF Sensio does not use a variable squeeze, then an NTSC Sensio encoded version of a Scope movie could look worse than a HQFS NTSC version. Sadly Sensio won't be giving us the ability to compare the upcoming Jaws 3-D, as there wont be a HQFS version. If they don't crop the original aspect ratio, Jaws 3-D will tell us how Sensio will go. Or they may use the 90 degree shift encode, which could take us back to an equal trade off, another supposed Sensio encoding parameter. Sensio has remained vague on their encoding options. We'll see. As for field-sequential being 30 frame vs Sensio's true 60 fields, that is not to be underestimated, as it is certainly not equal. First let's take take 3-D video shot material either standard NTSC (60 fields) or 720p HD at 60 frames. Both have a temporal rate for 60 images a second. Going to field-sequential drops the temporal rate by half. Simple enough? 24P Film based material (23.976) causes a new snag. Here, it is very important to remember the conventional 3-2 pulldown relies on either 60 fields or 60 frames (technically 59.94). 23.976P into 29.97P simply cannot use conventional 3-2 pulldown. Google 3-2 pulldown techniques, and you quickly discover 60 fields or frames are essential for it to work as planned. Yes, each 24p side can have pulldown applied before the field-sequential encoding, but then, and with matching pulldown, the cadence can cause weird stereo field flips upon closer inspection with areas of high motion. Or, you can modify the 3-2 pulldown process before encoding. In my studies, I've preferred this 2nd option, although the modified version(s) on occasion still doesn't have the standard feel of 60i motion for those with a trained eye. Technically it can't. Standard 3-2 pulldown is not perfect nor ideal, but it presents a certain "look" North Americans have become accustomed to . I've seen both pros and amateurs convert using both methods described above. It's important to note again current Sensio decoders essentially uses frame sequential 3-D for playback, but alternate 3-D playback options (twin projectors, 120hz DLP, future Sensio processors, etc) could more effectively use the temporal advantage of the Sensio encoding system. | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Intermediate Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 61 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
I'm going a bit off topic here (well more, back to the first topic) but has anyone else seen sensio's news page lately? Apparently they showed clips of "Meet the Robinsons" and "Nightmare Before Christmas" on their "Complete 3D HD solution system." So, if the studio can make a 3D version of "Meet the Robinsons" and "Nightmare Before Christmas" that is compatible with a new sensio system on Blu ray disc, that could mean we may be seeing some major 3D movies for home viewing over the next several years. Of course, I like their disclaimer below: "This news release contains forward-looking statements that reflect the Company’s expectations with regard to future events. Actual events could differ significantly from those anticipated in this document. " It's worth hoping for though... kind of like Jaws 3D... | ||
| Nahie (Nahie) New member Username: Nahie Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
"However, IF Sensio does not use a variable squeeze, then an NTSC Sensio encoded version of a Scope movie could look worse than a HQFS NTSC version. " This is how the Sensio Spy Kids 3D movie is. It is letterboxed, not anamorphic. I understand the point about 3-2 pulldown as well, but Sensio also encoded this disc using a bob method, same as the HQFS, which basically blurs the frames that are in-between. There is no interlacing on the Sensio disc, so the "temporal advantage" is not there. So, while the new HD Sensio processor may offer better encoding, the current generation processor and DVDs on the market offer identical or even worse (in the case of the letterboxing) quality than HQFS. I am glad that Sensio is at least pushing a new HD solution, but we'll have to see if it is better than the other HD 3D solutions, like the Samsung 3D DLP TV. | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Intermediate Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 62 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
True. It would be cool if the idea actually "caught on" enough for major studios to release 3D movies like "Meet the Robinsons" in 3D! People like us who have been into 3D for a while are excited about developements like the Samsung and Mitsubshi TVs, but the setup is currently somewhat complicated and impractical for the general public. If Sensio puts out a system that is ready to go, just plug it in and put on the glasses, I think it may attract a lot of people. (Message edited by stannmaple on January 28, 2008) | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
Wow, how about that! http://www.cwonline.com/store/view_product.asp?Product=1372 | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Intermediate Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 63 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Unbelievable! I will be buying this! Thanks for the update. Wow! A year in the promising, and they've finally come through! | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 112 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
wonder why no mention of it's release on the Sensio website... | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
i wonder what aspect ratio this presentation will have: ca. 2,35:1, encoded in 16:9 anamorphotic widescreen? hope so, nothing would be more disappointing than a full screen panscan release, that would destroy the stereoscopic effect completely. | ||
| Greg Kintz (Gregk) New member Username: Gregk Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Agreed, Eddie. A number of variables are still unknown. I sent in a payment to CyberWorld on Friday, but haven't received a confirmation of shipment yet. | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 113 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
the box shows anamorphic widescreen... | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 114 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I sent in a payment to CyberWorld on Friday, but haven't received a confirmation of shipment yet. Me too (Sent paypal payment Sunday)...no word on shipment...hoping it wasn't prematurely listed for sale on their site... | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Intermediate Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 64 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
I believe there is a place on their site to contact customer service. That should help you get to the bottom of it. Good luck! | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 13 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
I sent $$ last Thurs and got a shipping confirmation the next day but still nothing. Slow at the borders maybe? I'm in Buffalo and Toronto is only 2 hours away. I could've gone and picked it up! | ||
| Charles Arrants (Charles) Member Username: Charles Post Number: 53 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
3d-geek and Matt: I've ordered DVDs from CyberWorld twice in the past, and both products arrived after about two-and-a-half weeks. It doesn't take that long for the mail to get from Canada to Arizona, so both times there was obviously a delay in CyberWorld's processing of the orders. Now I'm going to hold off on ordering the Sensio "Jaws 3D" until I see in this forum how long you two have to wait for it. I'd also be interested in reading your opinion of the video quality -- how it compares to the eBay versions pirated from the old VHD discs. | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 115 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Charles: Thanks for the info. I have also ordered from cyberworld in the past, and I seem to recall I got a note with a day or two that my item was on its way. I sent an email yesterday afternoon asking about whether or not it had shipped yet, but so far no response. Will definitely post the results--I have stereoscopic player and a Samsung 56" DLP TV to watch it on, so it should be a pretty good test of quality. | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Intermediate Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 65 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
I'm quite envious of your TV. I hope to get a projector soon, but I'm sure the picture is fantastic on that TV (depending on the material you're playing of course) and flicker free correct? I'm curious to see when Jaws 3D arrives for all of you who ordered it- (I've decided to hold off for now.) | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 116 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
It is flicker free, but I am not quite sure why...the nvidia card I have only allows me to configure to 60 Hz refresh, which I thought was too low to allow flicker-free 3D...but it is indeed flicker free...it does, however, tend to magnify the lack of quality of the underground field-sequential stuff, but without flicker, still a major improvement over my 27" magnavox CRT from 1994! | ||
| Dann Groothuis (Stannmaple) Intermediate Member Username: Stannmaple Post Number: 66 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
Yes, I suppose anything that's been taken from an older source will diminish in quality the larger the image gets. Where did you buy the TV? I'd be interested to see if Sensio ever puts out their unit for the HDTVs and if it supports field sequential viewing. If it only supports sensio, they MAY sell more of their DVDs, but they're also going to miss a large market | ||
| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 117 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I got my TV at Circuit City, but they are sold at Best Buy and Sears as well (I think the model is HLT5687S), which is the 56" version in the '87 series', whatever the heck that means... | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 118 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
apparently there were production problems...the disks are supposed to ship this week (week of 2/11). | ||
| Oliver Staubi (Staubi) New member Username: Staubi Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
I am just waiting for Jaws 3d. I ordered the dvd from CyberWorld for 3 weeks. Does anyboudy get the movie? And how is the quality? | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
I wrote cwonline.com and they told me orders have been processed but like rrrrob mentioned, there were problems at their replication facility for Jaws 3-D. I was told they are expecting orders to ship next week but I'm trying not to get my hopes up. | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 120 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
NEXT week now? Great...get ready to file a INR with PayPal.... | ||
| Oliver Staubi (Staubi) New member Username: Staubi Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
oh my God. why ist possible to order the movie, when there is no product. They only take the money.It`s so unfair, that they don`t wride an email to all clients " Sorry, we have problems...." | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 121 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
if you paid by PayPal, you have 45 days from paymnt to file an Item Not Recieved complaint to get a refund...keep that in mind, as you won't want that time limit to expire if you don't have your movie in-hand by then... | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 15 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
Melanie from Sensio returned my e-mail from a few days ago saying she has the discs right in front of her and that they're going out today so don't back out just yet if you haven't already. She was very positive in saying we should have orders in the next few days. I'm hoping to be watching it this weekend along with a few others  | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 122 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
if you're in the US, you won't have them by this weekend...they ship out of Canada and that will take a good week to get across the border... | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 16 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
Eh... I'll go skiing then. What's a few more days? | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 123 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
that'll work! have fun! | ||
| Oliver Staubi (Staubi) New member Username: Staubi Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2007 Rating: N/A |
the new massage from CyberWorld: "SENSIO delayed shipment because of a delay in replication. We are receiving them tomorrow" is it not the same answer like everytime? | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 10 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
and SENSIO still do not state "jaws 3d" as available on their own website. if that ain't strange... | ||
| Ged (Michaeldibb) New member Username: Michaeldibb Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2008 Rating: N/A |
Just received this from Melanie at Sensio: [quote] Hello, Jaws is finally available!!! We've had problems with our replication facility so I received the DVDs on Thursday and we didn't have time to update our website. Sorry about that... If you'd like to place an order please do so at: dvdsales@sensio.tv Thank you and have a great day! Best regards, Mélanie Trudel [/quote] | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 124 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
It's there now.... http://www.sensio.tv/en/home_theater/3d_dvd/available/default.3d | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
did anybody get their copy of "jaws 3d" from sensio until now? | ||
| Greg Kintz (Gregk) New member Username: Gregk Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Mine arrived yesterday. | ||
| Eddie Lendhor (Edddie) New member Username: Edddie Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2007 Rating: N/A |
oh great! how's the image quality? would it be possible for you to post a screenshot, please? | ||
| Greg Kintz (Gregk) New member Username: Gregk Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
It's not too bad! When compared to the old 3-D VHD, it is FAR superior! Well ..Except for the aspect ratio. The Sensio version crops a bit of the sides that was shown on the VHD. This why it is important to make sure you view this on a display with ZERO overscan. As most of you are already aware of, JAWS 3-D tends to push a couple of things off the screen. ;) With the Sensio version's aspect ratio, you need to see to the very edge of the picture, or some of these off screen effects will be ruined. Am writing from work and the schedule's a bit crazy, but will see if I can post a screenshot eventually. ..If somebody doesn't do so before I can. | ||
| Matt (Matt) New member Username: Matt Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2007 Rating: N/A |
Nothing different than what Greg mentioned. It's waaay much better than VHD and comparable to the DVD release. My nitpick, along with the cropping mentioned, is that it still has the dark upper shadow in the right eye typical of some stereovision prints but it's nothing to lose sleep over. Overall I was very pleased and think Sensio did a fantastic job with this! I hope they do the same with future releases. Here's a link to a few screengrabs... http://movies3d.freeforums.org/jaws-3-d-and-other-titles-on-sensio-dvd-t27-30.html (Message edited by Matt on March 11, 2008) (Message edited by Matt on March 11, 2008) | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 128 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
anyone know if they will continue with their list? Or what's next? ICFOS? Creature? Revenge? Taza? | ||
| Todd Moore (Todd3d) New member Username: Todd3d Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2007 Rating: N/A |
According to Melanie, Taza will be next sometime before summer. | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
summer 2008? ;) | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 132 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Anyone else notice the sensio 3D version of jaws is not only cropped, but it seems it's way off center? It looks to me like quite a bit of the left side of the frame is lopped off--you can tell when the jaws 3d logo is on-screen...it's shifted quite a bit to the left...wonder what happened there? | ||
| Charles Arrants (Charles) Member Username: Charles Post Number: 58 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Rrrob: The Sensio version of Jaws 3D is slightly cropped laterally compared to the old interlaced VHD version,but the forward images don't appear significantly off-center to me. Be sure that the aspect ratio for this Sensio movie is set for 16:9 instead of the standard 4:3 that was used for the older version. | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 133 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
hi again: if you open the sensio Jaws 3D in stereo movie maker, and look at the left/right images separately, you can see that in the left image the Jaws 3D title is significantly shifted to the left as compared to the right eye view. I am not sure if this condition exists throughout the movie...here is a pic: http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/pinballguy/sensioscreengrab.jpg i guess im splitting hairs here, but it IS kinda noticeable on a large TV, and on a smaller one where overscan is present... (Message edited by rrrrob on May 01, 2008) | ||
| Charles Arrants (Charles) Member Username: Charles Post Number: 59 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Rrrob: The horizontal shifting of various objects in the separate left-right images isn't a misalignment error. It's the normal horizontal parallax (difference in perspective between eyes) that produces the stereoscopic 3-D effect. Objects at screen level have zero parallax (no shifting at all). As an object (like the title) moves forward out of the screen, the right-eye image shifts leftward relative to the left-eye image, forcing your eyes to cross slightly to fuse the two images. Since the fusion point for the title (where your eyes cross to see it) is closer than the fusion point for the screen, the title appears to be floating in front of the screen. In other words: no shift, no 3-D effect. | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 134 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Charles: I understand what you are saying, but that's not what I am referring to. I realize the left-eye veiw (of protruding objects) should be shifted to the right, while the right-eye view should be shifted to the left (and the opposite for objects receding behind the screen), but for centered objects, they should be shifted symmetrically (i.e., the same distance from the left/right edge of the screen). Look at my screen pic I posted above...note the difference I illustrate with the green arrows. (Message edited by rrrrob on May 01, 2008) | ||
| Charles Arrants (Charles) Member Username: Charles Post Number: 60 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Hi Rrrob: I see what you're referring to, but in the original movie (or at least in the 3-D version that was released on the VHD disk in the 1980s) the "Jaws 3-D" title actually isn't centered on the screen. It's positioned a bit left of center, and this left shift is MUCH more obvious in the Sensio version because the images have been cropped laterally. I'm going to TRY to attach several screen captures from the VHD and Sensio versions. Compared to the uncropped interlaced 3-D version, the left-right cropping in the Sensio image looks pretty symmetrical to me.    | ||
| Rrrob (Rrrrob) Senior Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 135 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Ah, okay, so the off-center thing is probably in the film itself...now I'd just like to understand why they lopped off the sides like they did...the packaging says it's 2.35:1, but since they've altered the aspect ratio, that statement on the packaging isn't really true (unless they altered the height of the print as well)...thanks for the screen grabs! (Message edited by rrrrob on May 02, 2008) |
