NuView works with new Sony HDR-HC1 Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

stereo3d.com webboard » 3D Movies & Video » NuView works with new Sony HDR-HC1 « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Anon

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I tried NuView with the Sony HDR-HC1 in 1080i high definition mode, and it works fine. You just have to zoom in a little bit to eliminate the distortions/blurred bars on the left and right side of the display. As a result you get interlaced widescreen 3D @ 1920 x 540 per eye that you can view perfectly with DepthQ or Stereoscopic player.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

BigV

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

How do you watch it on the Depthq? Have you actually tried this or you assume?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M.H.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 8:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Both DepthQ and Stereoscopic player support interlaced data source - so it works.
I had tested interlaced mpeg playback from
HDR-FX1 (not direct from camera but from file) and it works ... It is neccesary to have a good PC able to deompress mpeg2 at HDV resolution ...
If you speak about paling on InFoscus DepthQ projector is works as well ...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M.H.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 8:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Anon:
HDR-HC1 will give 1440x540 per eye ...
1920x540 will give an HDTV camera not HDV one ...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M.H.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

P.S. I do not speak about direct playback on InFocus DepthQ - this will not work, I speak about loading to PC and playing by the help of DepthQ Server of Stetreoscopic player ...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Anon

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

As M.H. said DepthQ and Stereoscopic Player support interlaced footage. I viewed it in interlaced mode with Quad-buffered OpenGL (from captured file).
M.H., you are correct that the HDR-HC1 will give you 1440x540 per eye. But since the camera captures non-square (16:9) pixels you get the full widescreen image when setting the aspect ratio to 16:9.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

stereoboy

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 9:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

i don't understand how can NuView work with a HDTV camcorder? don't you have to turn off the shuttering of the NuView? will it play back on a HDTV monitor/set? will it play back in HD? i have a Mac G4 i book what softwere will do stereoscopic 3d on it?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M.H.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

stereoboy: The HDV camera store half-frames in the same way as normal DV camera. It works identicaly as on normal DV camera, only the half-frames are not 720x240 big but they are 1440x540 big (an they are stored in mpeg2 insted to DV format)
Both HC1 and FX1 camera produce during recording the proper signal for NuView - so it should work without problem ...
Accrding stereoscopic software for Mac - there exist no graphic card supporting stereo for Mac, so software does not exist as well ...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M.H.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

P.S. it will not play on HDTV monitor/set in stereo (this monitor usualy deinterlace and blend the half-frames) ....
It will play perfectly in HD on PC based stereoscopic projection setup (active based on Christe proejctors or InFocus DepthQ or on passive one).
Correctly , it will play in 1/2 HD resolution,
For true stereoscopci HD you must use two cameras.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Serge V.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Dear, Anon, you can upload 10-15 sec of mpeg2/ts
shooted by Sony HDR-HC1 with NuView?
Thank you in advance,
Serge V.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Serge V.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Anon,give more information and please samples!
Thanks!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

PeterM

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I am astonished how Nuview work with HC1 camera perfect
First, We already checked two camerea. We found an delay between the SD signal which you use to sync Nuview and the record HD signal. Under these coditions the Nuview shut to late and the downparrt of the Picture is a goest picture. Ok you can improve by adjusting shutter speed but we never got a perfect HDV picture. Anyone who has an idea.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Serge V.

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

PeterM,do you have 50i or 60i version of HC-1?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

PeterM

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I Have a 50i. But we try a 60i too. Ialredy got sample from people sample who say there HC1 work.
I exract the halfpictures and IN EVERY sa,ple you have more or less ghosting regarding on the shutter speed. Even Sony Europe agree that there is a time delay between HDV Chip signal and the downconverted SD Video what is used to sync the NuView. I agree under spec shutterspeed it nearly works perfect because the shuuter time match the time of switching the LCD n Nuwiew but of cause this is not a practical solution. (Loosing light etc)
Maybe someody send a link to a Transport stream nu view 3d film. Lets say 2 sec and shutterspeed 50 or 60. These shutter times work for me most worst. 150 for Pal is nearly perfect but ttoooo dark
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Chris W. Morris (Cmmerlin)
New member
Username: Cmmerlin

Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2006

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Is there any new information available regarding the Nu-View and the Sony HDR-HC1? I want to get this camera immediately for this purpose. Do the 60i versions work better than the 50i?

I'm concerned about the statements PeterM makes regarding ghosting artifacts and the delay issues. Are there any working samples we can view (even stills would be helpful)?

I've been waiting a long time for this kind of product to come together, and I hope this is the right combination for single camcorder 3D production.

Thanks &
Best Wishes,
Chris
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Chris W. Morris (Cmmerlin)
New member
Username: Cmmerlin

Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2006

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 2:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

For those interested, I found that the Nu-View does NOT work properly with the Sony HDR-HC1 cameras (in HDV mode). After many experiments, I found the results to be unacceptable, and not true 3d. A psudo-3d effect is produced, but proper 3d information is not recorded.

The Nu-View adapter is controlled by the DV signal for timing the interlaced video. There is a delay when the HDV signal is converted to DV in realtime. This causes timing and other issues with the resulting video.

I would be very appreciative if someone can prove me wrong. I would like to use my Nu-View for some HDV projects, if it's still a useful device.

BTW, The Mpeg compression on the HC1 is an advantage if you are using twin cameras. The speed of production compared to DV format, is unbelievable. With two cameras, you don't need to re-process your video files for editing or final processing. (As with Nu-View) It's relatively fast to synch two independent Mpeg video streams... much easier than the massive DV format, and the result is 3D HDV! :-)

Best Wishes,
Chris

(Message edited by cmmerlin on June 18, 2006)

(Message edited by cmmerlin on June 18, 2006)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jorge (Jorge)
New member
Username: Jorge

Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2006

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I recently purchased a new sony HC3 camcorder.
If somebody here in Spain has a Nuview and wants to check if it works properly with this Hdv camera please contact me in this thread.

Busco a alguien en espa�a que tenga un nuview para comprobar si funciona o no correctamente con el nuevo modelo de videocamara hdv de sony HC3, yo pongo la camara. Esa informacion puede ser muy util para todos (y para mi el primero :-) Si quieres hacer la prueba comentalo en esta rama.

Regards,
Saludos,
Jorge
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Billy Two Rivers (Billy_two_rivers)
New member
Username: Billy_two_rivers

Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2006

Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!)

Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I've been making stereo video with the HC3 using the NuView and a dual HC3 rig. I have to say that there is a flexibility about shooting with the NuView that makes me interested in seeing how it can work better with the new HDV cameras. Although the dual HDV rig can make gorgeous stereo (with more resolution, etc..) there are limitations to it, such as not being able to reliably compose telephoto shots, that make me wish to see the NuView work with HDV as it did with DV. The limitations that the DV format DID have with the Nuview stereo was that the resolution was too low. My experiments shooting in HDV with the HC3 and the Nuview HAVE been almost great. As stated before, some subjects work better then others but when it works it looks fantastic. The HC3 NuView combo makes stereo video, albeit with some ghosting, but the improvement in resolution over DV NuView material is substantial. Has anyone tried the NuView with other HDV cameras? I am wondering if it is possible to address the timing issue that causes the ghosting with some kind of modification of the NuView hardware.

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Program Credits Administration