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     John Lineberger Rating: N/A |
I need some help! I have been shooting 3D slides for 25+ years and always enjoy projecting them for an audience of friends. I am considering buying a twin-digital camera setup. Does anyone know of software that will let me select stereo pairs and create a DVD that I can play on a digital TV (at 480P?)and view the still images using shutter glasses? I plan on shooting hyper-stereo views; viewing them in 3D on TV would be great. Thanks | |||
| M.H. Rating: N/A |
Hi John You shoud forget TV. Modern TV usualy works at 120 or 100 Hz interpolating frames, so they destroy the 3D efect totaly. I strongly suggest to you to use CRT monotro with PC or projection (InFocu DepthQ active or dual projector passive) ... If you want to work with still iamges only, search the net for Stereo Photo Maker - this is all what you need + nVidia graphic card. | |||
| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) New member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 8 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I would like to take my stereo-pair photographs and view them in 3D with field sequential glasses from a DVD. I thought Virtual Dub would allow this, but I can't seem to find that capability in the program. I don't believe Stereo Movie Maker will work with still images. Is there a program that will take my stereo pair stills, and convert them to interlaced .avi files for viewing in FS 3D on a CRT TV? (Message edited by rrrrob on June 22, 2006) | |||
| Scott Warren (Cornucopia) New member Username: Cornucopia Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
This kind of thing would be done in parts: 1. Using StereoPhotoMaker, and Photoshop (or similar), generate all the stills you want, resizing such that each of the pair is (assuming NTSC) 720x480 pixels, 24bit, BMP in its own separate file. 2. Separate the Left and the Right photos into their own folders. 3. Use a batch rename program (like "1-4-all rename") to take each of these and make simple ascending numbered files (0001.bmp, 0002.bmp, 0003.bmp, etc). Do this for each folder--don't worry, they won't be mismatched. 4. Use an NLE video editor (Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere/AfterEffects, Avid Xpress, Ulead MSP, Canopus Edius) to "assemble" these into a video timeline, or if they're too powerful and expensive, use a simple concatenator/convertor like "BMP2AVI". Either way, save/render/export as AVI, Uncompressed profile (watch out for huge files!), 720x480 @ 29.97fps. Do this for both folders-naming them file_L.avi and file_R.avi. (You decide how long each slide should remain onscreen) 5. Now use StereoMovieMaker with the 2 files and convert to Field Sequential. Similar specs for exported avi file. 6. Now, convert to MPEG2 for DVD (using Mainconcept, TMPGEnc, etc). Make sure to force it to maintain interlacing. 7. Author and burn to DVD. There are a number of these steps that could have been consolidated within one NLE application, IF you are familiar enough with it. The steps I gave you should work in more general scenarios that don't require too much video knowledge. Plus, they're based on less expensive components. HTH, Scott >>>> edit: Alternately, you could have done a side-by-side, then assemble and export to avi, then Vdub or SMM could play with the fields... >>>> edit2: Alternately, you could have exported as interlaced still, encoded each still as an MPEGstill and (with the right Authoring app) directly authored a VOBU/stillshow (aka user-advanced) slideshow... (Message edited by Cornucopia on June 23, 2006) | |||
| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) New member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 9 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I am using side-by-side stereo pair photographs. I was hoping for a simple way to do this without manually creating .avi files from both left/right views (i.e., a program like Stereo Movie Maker that took stills, let you assign the time for the slide duration, then interlace it, etc.). I thought avsynth did this as well, but the link I found for the add-on/plug-in or whatever was not found. But the .avi from scratch method will work as well. Thanks! | |||
| Scott Warren (Cornucopia) New member Username: Cornucopia Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2006 Rating: N/A |
Rrrrob, This link may help you: http://fauskes.net/nb/avisynth/#imagesequences Scott | |||
| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) New member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
kewl...thanks...I will see if my brain can comprehend that. I haven't even tried AVIsynth at all yet.... | |||
| axel bernhardt (Dreid) New member Username: Dreid Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2006 Rating: N/A |
sounds not very easy. Is there no other (easy) way to make a 3d-DVD (avi,...) from 3d-still-images (jps, bmp,...), perhaps with sound? Which programms (freeware) helps? | |||
| Larry Elie (Larry_elie) New member Username: Larry_elie Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2006 Rating: N/A |
I'm not sure what formats your slides are in. If they are 35mm half frames, you need a slide scanner to convert, storing each appropriately. 3DCombine can take your slides and make any number of video compatible stills, from anaglyph up to parallel. Ulead Movie Movie Factory 4 or 5 can make a slide show from the parallel or anaglyph stills if you have the patience to set it up right and then make a DVD that will work in some hardware. Again, this is going to depend on the hardware you want for playback. | |||
| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) New member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I have figured this out. I scan all stereo pair stills into the computer. I use a video editing program to put each picture into a slide show (don't separate the two pairs--keep them side-by-side in your .avi slideshow). I am not sure if it matters, but I set the height of the video project output to 480 (corresponds to US NTSC format). Now, when I have the entire side-by-side stereo pair slideshow done (in either .avi or .mpeg), I open that video file in Stereo Movie Maker as INPUT TYPE Side-by-Side. Stereomovie maker will convert the movie file into either field sequential or anaglyph format, or whatever other format is available for saving within Stereomovie maker....No need to separate left/right images, etc., assuming the stereo pair frames are relatively symmetrical on each side of the vertical centerline of the photographs. (Message edited by rrrrob on October 16, 2006) (Message edited by rrrrob on January 11, 2007) | |||
| Brian Johnson (Bryan123) New member Username: Bryan123 Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2006 Rating: N/A |
Scott, thanks for the detailed answer!
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| Robert Teft (Rrrrob) New member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
Rrrrob: Thanks for the simple answer! ;) (Message edited by rrrrob on January 09, 2007) | |||
| Brian Johnson (Bryan123) New member Username: Bryan123 Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2006 Rating: N/A |
Very interesting!
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| 3d-geek (Rrrrob) Advanced Member Username: Rrrrob Post Number: 95 Registered: 5-2006 Rating: N/A |
I have recently done the slideshow thing again, but this time going the long way so I can manually adjust the 3D parallax/depth and alignment between the two images. I scan the pairs in so that I end up with two separate images. If you have joined stereo pairs (like those taken with a Loreo 35 mm camera, or Stereoviews), you will have to use a photo editing program to split them apart (evenly) before proceeding. So far I have only used this method with separated pairs, so I haven't had to do this extra step. Then I join the resulting left/right images in a 3D freeware photo program called Anaglyph Maker. Anaglyph maker allows you to adjust the separation between the two pairs, as well as the vertical alignment. If the images aren't aligned rotationally (i.e., one is slightly offset by rotational degree from the other), I rotate the left or right image in another photo editing program and then open the adjusted image again in Anaglyph Maker. I judge the distance between the two mainly by loooking at the background separation in anaglyph mode (the first time I did this, I got a lot of background ghosting in the resulting shutter slideshow so I had to bring the background closer together, which also brought foreground pictures more 'out of the screen'). There is a lot of trial-and-error here until you have an eye for the correct separation needed for your images. If you do this as stereo pairs like I suggested above, you won't be able to adjust the left/right images for rotational alignment, which can degrade the stereo effect (especially if your stereo slideshow output is going to be anaglyph--interlaced seems more forgiving, except for the resulting eyestrain!). So now you have stereo pairs, corrected for horizontal separation, vertical alignment, and rotation. One problem with Anaglyph Maker is that when you save the two images (left and right), sometimes the right image has a white border down the right side and/or along the bottom of the image--I go through all right-eye images and check for this (it doesn't seem to happen on the left images). If it is present, I use the paint/fill-in option (in microsoft paint) to fill in the white border with black. Otherwise, your resulting slideshow will have a very obvious and annoying white line on the right or bottom of the resulting slides. Take the left slides, string them together into a slideshow in a video editing program and save as an .avi file. Do the same with the right slides (both at 720 x 480 resulution!) Open both left/right .avis in Stereo Movie Maker, and save as the preferred format(s), then back to your video editing software to string the resulting .avi files (usually broken up into 2 Gb chunks) together, add music if you wish, and save as DVD-compliant MPEG, and burn to a DVD. (Message edited by rrrrob on December 12, 2007) |
