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Rrrob (Rrrrob)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 5:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Curious as to what everyone is buying/owns as far as the new 3D Blu-Ray Players (or PS3 consoles) and the latest 3D TVs (2010 models and beyond)...and any good/bad points about them...I don't own either yet (still running a 2007 DLP/PC setup), but just curious what people are buying.
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Geir Øyvind Vælidalo (Goev)
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Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 8:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Rrrob,

I own a PS3 and a Samsung PS50C7705 50" plasma TV.
The PS50C7705 is the second cheapest 3D-TV available here in Norway, priced at USD 2200. The cheapest one is a 40" LCD priced at USD 1900.

The 3D-games on the PS3 works great, and so do the Blu-ray 3D-support, as far as I have experienced. However, there are no direct support for 3D-DVDs or other 3D video-meterial yet.

The PS50C7705 do, in addition to the hdmi 3D-standard, support checkerboard, horizontal- and vertical-interlaced, alternating frame, side-by-side and above-below. Only the last two are supported on all types of video-input. The other ones are available on hdmi-1 when you set it as PC-in. So a PC with hdmi/dvi on hdmi-1 can use any mode to display 3D content as long as the resolution is HD or FULL-HD (and 60Hz?). That's roughly how it is...

This means that playing interlaced format on my setup is not possible as the PS3 upscales everything without caring about the interlacing. Also side-by-side must have half the width and full height, and above-below content must have full width and half the height. Sensio 3D DVDs work just fine, although the Sensio version of Ultimate G's resolution and quality is far behind what you would expect to day. I haven't tried any other Sensio DVDs.

Regarding the image quality, the TV is superb!
It's crisp and colorful. Great for 2D and it have a media-player and Internet built in.

Since the TV is a plasma screen, I am a bit bothered by burn-ins, just as on old CRT screens. Also the pixels seems to need some time to loose their energy, and this gives some ghosting in high contrast scenes. This is the biggest drawback, I think. When that is said, the ghosting is less visible than on the IMAX-cinema we had in Oslo some ten years ago and on my Zalman 3D-monitor.

Another drawback is the size of the glasses. They are superwide! You don't look smart in these. It's just a fact.
Although they fit fine outside my regular glasses, the extra weight takes some time to get used to.

Note that the classes have a slightly yellowish tint which seems to be compensated for by the TV, so other glasses from others might give a different tint.

The TV is a really great 2D TV, and except from the minor ghosting, the 3D effect is really good. I can recommend both the PS3 and the PS50C7705 as they are both really good products.
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Rrrob (Rrrrob)
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Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Wow, thanks for the great write-up!

The latest 3D release, Monster House (released last week), has a few PS3 folders included on the disk--I was thinking that those are the firmware updates needed to play 3D blu-rays...might check into that (and I could be wrong altogether!).

Also, my understanding is that the glasses are not interchangeable between manufacturers....

My DLP doesn't seem to have much ghosting, but there is SOME (but only in one eye, and the severity differs from glasses to glasses--even though all are the same brand).
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Geir Øyvind Vælidalo (Goev)
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Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 6:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I've too read somewhere that the Monster House disc have the PS3 firmware needed to play Blu Ray 3D, but now that the 3.50 firmware is available online, you don't need that.

There are third party glasses that is supposed to work on most systems. I don't remember the name of the company. Also, I think Panasonic and Samsung-glasses are interchangeable but you have to ware them upside down. That means one could buy glasses from the other company and just rewire them. I'm not opening my USD170 glasses to test that though
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Rrrob (Rrrrob)
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Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 2:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

sounds like a phase/eye-dominance difference between the two manufacturers...I guess these newer systems don't allow that to be switched back and forth :-( I am guessing that was done on purpose.

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