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James

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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Has anybody seen with own eye volumetric projection system they are offering here? Is this really so "nice" they claim it to be?

http://www.3dmsi.net/products.html
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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 4:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

there site wount open
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Innar

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 5:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Try it again it is working again...
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clyde

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 6:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Well short answer: It Works.

Long answer: its usually based on concave mirror and a focussing fresnel lens.
You place the product to be adverised such as a shoe, colacan etc (max size ive seen is upto 19 inches) on a rotating turntable, and then its "projected" at you via the concave mirrors and fresnel lens.

if you want to see a professional version fo this visit Elumens (they use a much higer evolved display system)

Of course this effect is visible only if you are "head on" viewing the display, even a shift of head by as much as 15 degrees of if your standing 15 degress away from dead center will not give you any 3d feel.

this is not exactly "volumetric" displays in teh true sense.
heres what a volumetric display should be http://www.actuality-systems.com

Now to do video, its a simple matter of placeing a small lcd screen as the "object"

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Clyde
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Innar

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 7:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ok! But what are the main differences between this system and x3d (opticality) is offering(I think it is dumb question but I am quite newbie in this area :p )
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clyde

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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 7:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

:) not a dumb question...
X3D screens are plasma screens which have precisely aligned filters in front of them pixel for pixel.
These filters "separate" a picture which is made by specially formatting the picture via software.

The filters then direct light from these pixels to different points in space, giving a 3d view similiar to how you would see if you had 3d glasses on. (only here you dont need glasses )

On a typical 50 inch x3d display, expect objects to float upto 2-3feet in front of the display AS WELL AS inside the display.

This is the key difference between these displays and the ones from Provision entertainment, WayCool 3d, 3dmsi etc.

In their systems, a "floating " video is just a 2d version floating of screen, no "levels of depth"

FOr example a scenery featuring sea, house, trees and clouds would all be on the same "plane" floating out of screen on these displays, not to mention that they are really tiny, 12 inches video being the biggest I've seen.

We produce content (can actually take a Tv commercial and give it "layers of depth" for attention grabbing display) and integrate teh x3d displays for the next level of digital signage.

Caveat: The process of creating content for x3d displays is a bit more involved than for teh concave mirror ones.

The viewing angle of x3d displays is tru 120 degrees semi circular.

Regards
Clyde
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mark graver

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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Guys,

I have seen the 3dmsi product at a POP show. Even their basic unit is quite amazing and could not be more 'real'. The watch which they had floating there was real enough to touch and viewing possible from at least 90 degrees. The unit had quite an audience around it. I hope this helps. Being a regular to these type of shows, I have seen many such systems in the past but nothing as compact and simple as these. The issue is that the company requires that the customer makes the 3D objects from them only and also does not sell the units to clients.

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