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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The new version 0.7 of Stereoscopic Player (a free versatile stereoscopic movie player) is available.

The player offers support for the NVIDIA stereo driver now. This means you can play your 3D-DVDs and videos flickerfree using shutterglasses and the NVIDIA stereo driver.

You can download the player at: http://mitglied.lycos.de/stereo3d
You'll also find additional information and hints about my player on this site.
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jack

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Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 4:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

will it work on ati e3d glasses
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Anonymous

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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 4:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Which version of the nVidia driver?
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 10:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The NVIDIA mode works on NVIDIA cards only, but there are many other modes which can be used on any card, for example over/under for syncdoubling-shutterglasses.

I used driver version 45.23/45.23, however it could work with older versions too. In case of problems, please upgrade to 45.23.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 2:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

None of the videos I tried worked. I am using a the 3dReveltator glasses on a Geforce 4 with driver 45.23/45.23 on win98se.
Could you please give us a link to a video that you know works.
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 9:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I might be wrong but I don't think the player supports pageflipping and if it doesn't the revelator owners are out of luck. Since that is the only mode it supports. You need a pair of glasses that support over/under mode or interlaced.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

The version 0.7 does support pageflipping on NVIDIA cards based on the NVIDIA stereo driver. Over/under mode is supported too (works an any card), interlaced output is not supported (except when the source is coded interlaced).

Anonymous: Your problems very likely do not depend on the videos. It seems to be an incompatibility with your system. I don't use Win9x myself, therefore I don't test the player on this systems. Some other users told me that the player shows strange bugs under Win9x. I will try to fix this in the next version. However, many people also told me that pageflipping works fine, most of them running Win 2000 or XP.

To sum up: Pageflipping already works fine on some systems. If it does not on yours, please try the next version version again. I will give my best to fix all bugs.
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Jesper

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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 2:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hello.
I get this mess. when I try to play a 3d movieclip. What does it mean."Error: Stereoscopic Player was not able to play this file!
Reason: Could not connect Stereo Transformation Filter input pin!"
Thanks
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Anonymous

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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Jesper,

I get the same message too. (Am using a nVidia G4 video card and own the Power DVD player) AVI files open fine in 3-D, but DVDs always give me that error code.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

It means that the codec refuses to pass images to the player's stereoscopic processing filter. For example new PowerDVD decoders show this error. They don't allow other applications to use their output, I guess due to copy protection issues. I can't change this, the only way to solve the problem is to use an old version of PowerDVD. Version previous to 4 work, some 4.x versions too.

When this happend during file playback, it could help to change the decoders settings. For example, if you use the Ligos MPEG2 decoder, you must disable over usage in the codec's settings. There could be similar issues with other codec too.

If your problem persists, please give me more detailed information at pwimmer@gmx.at (e.g. what decoder, OS version, DirectX version, graphic card, ...)
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Jesper

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Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ok. Now, I don't even have power DVD, so how will I know what decoder the stereoplayer are using to play my file. But I'll send you an email.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Greg!

I tried to email you, but only got the following error, so I'm posting the answer here in the forum. Hopefully you'll see it.

The recipient's spam filtering system has rejected this message. Your system may be an open relay or open proxy, or the message was rejected due to content. Contact TEK and refer to sending IP 213.165.64.20 at Mon Dec 8 12:41:49 2003.

I don't think my email provider is an open relay...

Here's what I actually wanted to say:

Download http://mitglied.lycos.de/stereo3d/clvsd.ax which is an old version of the PowerDVD decoder that works for sure. Please copy it in the 'C:\Programs\Stereoscopic Player\Filters' folder (could be different if you have chosen a different directory during setup). Stereoscopic Player will install the decoder when you start the player. Click File->Settings and select the 'Cyberlink Video/SP Decoder'. Now try to play a DVD again.

In case it still does not work, contact me again!

Peter
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GregK

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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 5:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Peter,

I downloaded the file and put it in the Stereoscopic Player's "filter" file.

The good news is the "Stereo Transformation Filter Input Pin" error is now gone!

The not so good news is interlaced DVDs play back as double images no matter what viewing method I chose, be in anaglyph, monoscopic, side by side etc. And I am telling the player it is interleaved video format in the "layout" section. I don't have any over and under or side by side DVD or DVD-Rs, so I cannot test those 3-D formats at this time.

As before, interlaced AVI files play perfectly with the Stereoscopic Video Player.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 6:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi, I forgot to mention that you must click File->Video Decoder Properties after opening the DVD and select 'Force Weave' in the decoders properties.

Peter
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GregK

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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 6:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Peter,

Bad news & very good news....

My Sony Vaio PowerDVD version does not allow changing the progressive scan settings in the Video Properties section. It doesn't even show such options are possible.

But I was able to get a standard version of PowerDVD 4.0, and then set it up properly per your instructions. Interlaced 3-D material now converts over great!!

Thank you very much for all of the tips and sharing such a great StereoScopic Video player with us all.

Best regards,

-Greg-
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Xander

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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Peter,
Stereo with nvidia drivers is not working for me either.
3dRevelator glasses, Geforce ti4200, amd1800+, 512mb, WinXP.

I tried with a side-by-side and a over-under video file.
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi!

What exactly is the problem? Does playback in other formats e.g. anaglpyh work?

If the problem only occurs with NVIDIA viewing method, please do the following:

Check if other applications work in 3D, especially the NVIDIA Image viewer and the medical test image.

Make sure you have the latest stereo driver installed (45.23/45.23). The display driver must have the same version number.

Stereo mode must be enabled, enabling by hotkey does not work.
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Xander

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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Turning stereo fully on instead of the hotkey solved it.
Thanks for you help and the player.

and merry x-mas to all.
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V.S.

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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have tested Stereoscopic Player for nVidia compatibility with IMAX DVD, stereo CD (Over/Under) and with i-glasses SVGA PRO – all working very well. Detailed review is here: http://www.really.ru/review/stereoscopic_player.html

Good job Piter!
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Thanks very much for the review!
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M.H.

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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Nice review :-). It was a nice oportunity to refresh my Russian language knowlidge. According selling the product of a work to a company - if you want to make a 100% quality code, you must work full time on it. And you must live from something ...
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V.S.

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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hi Michal!
That just is attempt to forecast the future...
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

What are you talking about? I do not understand a single Russian word... :-)
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M.H.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

For Peter: V.S. is forecating that your player is so good that you will be soon aquired by some company as well as I was :-).
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 9:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Version 0.7.5 is online now (http://mitglied.lycos.de/stereo3d)! It fixes thread errors under Win9x
and some issues with DivXG400 and Subtitle Mixer filters. And it supports my new GPL MPEG-1/2 decoder (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gplmpgdec/MpegDecoder012.msi?download), the only DVD decoder (besides PowerDVD) that decodes interlaced
MPEGs properly. For legal reason the GPL MPEG Decoder doesn't decode encrypted discs.
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Björn

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Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 1:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Hello Peter,

good work and thank you for this great player again. The new version is running fine, also with the new GPL MPEG-1/2 decoder !

For upcoming versions I have 2 wishes:

1) I use my two beamers normaly in nview-clone-mode (both screen the same), for 3d-video-playback with your player I have to switch to nview horizontal, of course no big prob, but it would be nicer if I could use nview-clone-mode too (I do not know if it is possible).

2) My two beamers have a resolution of 1280x720 - if I use this resolution (on nview horizontal it is 2560x720 total of course) and play a 3d-dvd and switch to full-screen-scaled (or unscaled) the both pictures are not on top of each other, so I have to switch to 1024x768 on each beamer (2048x768 total). It would be very nice if I could use my physical resolution (to prevent switching resolution and to prevent the beamers internal adjustment of the resolution).

Regards, Björn
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Peter Wimmer

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Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Ad question 1: Dual screen stereo output in clone mode isn't possible in the consumer NVIDIA driver. But the professional Quadro drivers can do this when using OpenGL output. Some GeForce cards can be hacked to Quadro...

Ad question 2: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you use the dual screen viewing method or side-by-side viewing method? When using side-by-side, the images are not centered properly, however when using dual screen output everthing should work fine. At least I hope so...
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Björn

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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

1: more3d used clone-mode (they demand it, you have to use clone-mode) on consumer nvidia-driver to output the two different images, but of course I do not know how deep they hacked into the nvidia-driver to do this. So I can follow that it is not possible on the "normal" way.

2: I mean dual-screen, not side by side over two screens.

Dual screen is working very fine and perfect if I use a desktop-resolution of 1024x768 on each screen (2048x768 total for horizontal nview-mode), but if I use my normal desktop-resolution of 1280x720 on each screen (2560x720 total for horizontal nview-mode) it is not working anymore, so I have to switch to the lower resolution and that is not the physical resolution of my two beamer.

I hope if I use the physical resolution of each beamer perhaps the quality will be better because if using not the physical resolution the beamer is interpolating / antialiasing (and my beamers are not the best in this point).

But of course you may have other and more important construction sites than this and 1024x768 should be ok for the most and I can switch the displaysize of course before starting your player ;)

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