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     Anonymous Rating: N/A |
I got a off brand Revelator from ebay for $20 it had the VGA dongle and CD of drivers, it had a small paper that said it came from a PNY TNT video card, and the email address was at i-glasses.com - the glasses had Revelator stamped on a small black box on the cable connected to the shutter glasses near the din 3 connecter that is at the end of the cable, but no elsa any ware - also the readme.txt on the CD has "3D game glasses 2/12/02" at the top and the same "service@i-glasses.com" email address has the small paper I looked at the http://www.nord-com.net/accot.schulz/Shutters/Revelator_info.html Web site and the dongle and glasses look the same -and the wire inside are the same- I tried the glasses the way they were, but would not work - I installed the drivers from the CD they were "StereoE.exe" the Nvidia Stereo 3D driver and "TNTW2KE.exe" Nvidia Video driver 27.42 -Driver has support for all Nvidia cards- - so I checked pin 9 on the video card, no 5v - so I had to re-wire the dongle, and got it to work for a little bit, shut down the computer and restarted and the glasses never worked again - what happened - So I downloaded the Nvidia Win2k-XP-30.00 drivers and installed - still no change - then I thought may be try the Elsa drivers - but it will not install - tried the hacked INI files for the elsa driver - still will not install - tryed using the inf files the the "c:\elsainst" dir and got a Elsa tool bar to install but thats about it - tried the "3DSTVIEW.ZIP" file and installed using the INF file ang got the viewer installed, but the glasses still dont work , tried the "GeForce Tweak Utility" but it dont help any I have uninstalled any elsa stuff and have only the "Nvidia Stereo 3D driver" and "Nvidia Win2k-XP-30.00 driver" now when I try to go into "Stereo Properties" and go to "Stereo Test & setup" the computer restarts I have ben messing with this thing for a long time - I have seen a lot of similar problems posted in this forum but no way to solve them - the few suggestions there were did not help me - any ideas, Thanks I am thinking about getting a real HMD, it looks like Shutter glasses are real buggy, and I have seen a few $200 and under HMDs on ebay I will have to save up the money I will take a long time but its worth the wait if you have to put up with this crap my system AMD 750MHZ 512MB MEM GeForce 2 MX/400 Win XP Pro | ||
| a_r_schulz Rating: N/A |
Nice that my information could help at least a little... wrt. the rebooting : I've learned somewhere that XP has the 'nice' feature of just rebooting instead of bothering the user with 'useless' blue screen error messages, see e.g. at winguides.com Not sure whether the bug still exists, but in earlier versions the "stereo properties" would crash unless you removed all "nvrs*.dll" files from the windows system directory. Make sure that you removed all NVidia (nv*.*) and ELSA related files from windows system and inf directories and registry entries before installing new drivers. Use uninstall option from the software control panel first. Check by file change dates (usually the same for one driver release) and properties in case of doubt. Install display driver first, then stereo add-on. A few other ideas from Anonymous users that I picked up at stereovision.net forums :
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| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
its me again, I did a system restore and re installed the "Nvidia Stereo 3D driver" and "Nvidia Win2k-XP-30.00 driver" still no luck here is how I wired it - It did work once after I rewired it - BUT NOT BEFORE Video card---------------------Monitor (1)big red wire center----------(1) (2)big green wire center--------(2) (3)big blue wire center---------(3) (4)not used (5)brown------------------------(5) (6)big red wire outside---------(6) (7)big green wire outside-------(7) (8)big blue wire outside--------(8) (9)not used - 5v external power (10)ornge-----------------------10) (11)not used (12)yellow - L/R control - goes to glasses (13)green-----------------------(13) (14)blue------------------------(14) (15)not used I double checked the wires with a volt meter and there ok | ||
| a_r_schulz Rating: N/A |
(Apology for probably stupid questions, but just to make sure  So maybe you at least managed to get the Stereo Test App. running without crashing the system ? Really sure that your external +5V reaches the glasses? Is the +5V source reliable (gameport, USB, etc), since significantly larger voltages (the PIC12C508's absolute maximum rating is specified to +7V), e.g. from an unregulated wall-plug, might fry the glasses' controller chip. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Yep, when I enable stereo, all the games I have like Quake and Wolfenstein and the test APP try the stereo thing, its just that the glasses dont work - I use the computers 5V power for the glasses - I Disassembled the little black box thats on the cable and checked the wires going back to the adapter, there good - is there any way to test the control circuit ?? and if its been fried, is there a replacement I can make - that will work with the glasses | ||
| a_r_schulz Rating: N/A |
Sounds like you salvaged your ELSA splitter cable, replacing the plug on the computer's side (where monitor and glasses cables come out) ? Triple-check (guess you double-checked already ) that pin 12 isn't shortened to one of its neighbours by accident. Try to disconnect the wire from pin 12 to the monitor, in case the monitor is pulling the level on pin 12. Not quite sure about the wired glasses' behaviour, but IMHO they should blink once if you touch +5V with the L/R control wire (disconnect from your new plug first, of course!). If you knew a little about TTL/CMOS logic chip circuits, you could put a flip-flop chip (e.g. CMOS 4027) as divider between VSync (VGA pin 14) and L/R control - that should trigger the glasses. As sample circuit you could take IC2A or IC2B (4027) in http://www.nord-com.net/accot.schulz/Shutters/controller/old_pll/sd12_sch.gif (only with +5v instead +9V) | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Yep I cut off the computer end, and pin 12 is ok ,it goes from the video card to the glasses and thats it I might make the circuit if I have time Or I might just get something else that does not need a mod to work Thanks for the help | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
It me one more time, I swapped video cards with a friend, so now I have power on pin 9, same video card, different mfg, and found a pair of real elsa Revelator for $27 on ebay has every thing, cds and glasses bag I was able to get it to work using the newest drivers and a little freeware tool called -refreshlock- My problem was that the stereo would work with the test app but not in games - I found out its because of using different refresh rates can stop 3d from working - duh -even if you set 648x480 to 100mhz - winxp can change refresh rates on its own back to 60mhz - BAD xp BAD!! So if you set all the refresh rates to a 100 for 640x400 and above, that you use for games, and lock them, stereo will work, or it does for me only problem now is that, if I play 2-3 games or more, one after the other, the computer may just lockup - happens when it switches from game to desktop - xp's way of fighting back I guess ? |
