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     Ryan Rating: N/A |
I've been looking at HMDs for a few days and I'm a bit lost. I was wondering if anyone here could answer a few questions for me. Is the image quality on the standard PC i-glasses too poor to play games with, or just a little blurry? Is head tracking a standard feature on these? Whats the cheapest price I'm likely to find on the VFX3D. And, should I just stick with my shutter glasses and 19 inch monitor for gaming? Thanks Ryan | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
You can get the VFX3D Direct from the factory for 995.00. Just make sure and talk to the sales department directly. -Kevin | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Yeah the VFX3d is a great unit to get if you like 200x240 resolution!!  | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
Well, I know that in the lower price range, I'm not going to get a unit with very good resolution. I'm more concerned with the stereoscopic adn immersive capabilities. Aside from just thinking it would be cool to play games with the gear on, I'd like to experiment with virtual sculpture. I'm hoping that the i-glasses are at least effective enough to get the point accross. | ||
| Krosse Rating: N/A |
The Olympus Eye-Trek FMD-700 is the best hmd in the 2-d hmd catagory. No stereoscopy available for it though. | ||
| Cybermind NL Rating: N/A |
I'm not that impressed with the Eye-Trek it's much too expensive, I haven't seen anything better than the Glasstron PLM-S700 in a long time and I hope the i-glasses SVGA is an improvement (still waiting for test unit). But for now I would choose the Cy-visor and believe me I've tested them all. We'll be testing the Cy-visor 3D next week. Cybermind NL | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
I'm very interested to hear about your experience with the cy-visor 3D, but I'm guessing that one will be out of my price range. It looks like the VFX1 can be found for around $150 and the i-glasses 3D for around $350 or $400. I'd, of course, love to go with the VFX1 if I thought that there was any hope of a linkbox in te future. I guess I'm just wondering if the resolution on these units is so bad as to not really be effective. Years ago I had a VictorMaxx Stuntmaster that was painful to wear and to look at. The i-glasses and VFX1 aren't THAT bad, are they? | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
Well, I've made my purchase on ebay. I bought the i-glasses. I was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with them. This is the original model with 176,000 pixels per eye, as opposed to 180,000. As nearly as I can tell, there isn't much of a difference between this original model and the ones now being sold as the i-glasses 3D. Is that the case, or I have I just dropped money on an inferior product? | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Buying a sensitive piece of equipment on ebay is not wise from the start...I would be worried more about a warranty at this time than anything else | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
Well, worst case scenario: I have to have someone service the unit and I've ended up nearly spending the retail price. Best case: It works and I saved a few hard earned dollars  | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
FYI - the old i-glasses cannot be serviced.... | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
Bad news. I guess the parts aren't being made any longer. Well, buyer beware, I suppose. Assuming they work, though, are the old ones inferior to the new ones? Especially in terms of head tracking and image quality. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
The new ones use a new circuit board and have adjustments for brightness, contrast and the like. The image quality is the same but the head tracker that came with the old units really needs to be updated. | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
Well, its at least good to hear that I didn't sacrafice any image quality. This is really a VR test drive for me. If I enjoy this at all, then I might be able to justify purchasing more expensive equipment down the road. However, if it sits and collects dust, as so many of my high tech gadgets do, at least it won't be a cool grand down the toilet. | ||
| Krosse Rating: N/A |
You made a bad decision, Ryan. On a positive note, at least you didn't purchase the Cy-Visor. Somewhere on this board you will find a topic with a list of posts about the Cy-Visor which contains some information about it which should convince you to avoid the Cy-Visor altogether. I was deeply involved in this particular topic due to a horrific experience I had with the Cy-Visor model DH-4400. Fortunately enough, I was thrilled to have found a great hmd in Olympus' Eye-Trek model FMD-700, especially after the experience I had with the Cy-Visor. Once again, I really recommend obtaining the Eye-Trek, unless you want stereoscopy or a really bad product in an hmd. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
There's nothing wrong with the I-glasses. We're talking about a low end HMD. I think they're perfect for the beginner. -Kevin | ||
| Krosse Rating: N/A |
Cy-Vizor: is it really worth or not???? | ||
| Krosse Rating: N/A |
I am not criticizing the I-Glasses. It would be unfair to do so. If Ryan is not satisfied with the I-Glasses, he should be informed of alternatives. I was simply doing that. Informing him of a great yet more costly alternative. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Krosse you are a big-mouth with an attitude, give it up | ||
| Ryan Rating: N/A |
Krosse, thanks for the input. Actually, the stereoscopic 3D is pretty important to me. Dabbling with shutter glasses is what got me into VR to begin with. It adds to the whole "wow" factor, I suppose. I guess I'll see how well I like this. The market seems to be growing enough that I would have expected companies to make more low end 3D HMDs. I guess the market just isn't there yet. Its a shame, too. It couldn't be all that difficult for Olympus to add stereoscopic 3D to their hmd. Hmmm. | ||
| Phil Rating: N/A |
>It couldn't be all that difficult for Olympus to add stereoscopic 3D to their hmd. Hmmm. It's been done. Check out TekGear at www.tekgear.ca . Note the .ca on the end for Canada, not .com. I don't work for these guys and have not yet seen the display in person. ---Phil | ||
| Krosse Rating: N/A |
Thanks, Ryan! Stereoscopic 3D is definitely a great thing! I would love to have stereoscopic 3D incorporated into my Eye-Trek as long as the OSR (Optical Super Resolution) device still worked. Right now though, it seems that developers cannot produce a 720,000+ pixel screen resolution stereoscopic 3D hmd and make it lightweight and affordable. I am anxious for the day when I will be able to put a headset on and be totally immersed in my own virtual environments. Meanwhile, I will continue to come to this internet site and others similar to it (in the future) in order to keep informed about all the latest trends in the hmd/stereoscopic 3D industry. | ||
| Krosse Rating: N/A |
In my opinion (for the time being), TekGear is a fraudulent Canadian business. They haven't shown any proof (at least not on their internet site) that their version of the Eye-Trek is 3D. Show me the proof and I might believe it. | ||
| Andreas Schulz Rating: N/A |
Sufficient proof ? See : http://www.tekgear.ca/hmd/vga.php3 (supports top/bottom, aka EyeScream stereo) http://www.tekgear.ca/hmd/ntsc.php3 (supports separate L/R NTSC video signals) At least, that's what they say on their website... | ||
| Miles Rating: N/A |
Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't the EyeScream stereo just shutter glasses or red-cyan glasses?? And the dual input doesn't really help either does it? Unless you have some pretty tricky drivers for your game and 2 video boards. But could the EyeScream support mean they send one frame in turn to each LCD (wouldn't be too hard to add that to the Eye-Trek would it?) I really want drivers that interlace the two pictures into one double height picture, and then the glasses send alternate lines to each LCD. Anyone know of a HMD that does this? I am interested in making my own, if I can find some decent 800x600 or better panels. Does anyone know of drivers for any product that do this? I would like to experiment first with some monitors/small LCDs and if someone has drivers that I can use to do this: http://www.mindflux.com.au/gallery/b_q3d02.jpg it would save me a lot of time. PS: I would love to get this going as a cheap homebrew stereoscopic so we can all have it..! | ||
| Andreas Schulz Rating: N/A |
Don't confuse stereo format and viewers. True, Eyescream light is red/cyan, and doesn't apply here. 'Classic' Eyescream stereo format is top-bottom, i.e. left and right eye pictures in the top and bottom half of the screen, so there is no fundamental difference to interlaced format - you loose half of the vertical resolution with both, just that you have to switch buffers for left and right panel every other scan line for interlaced and once per frame for top-bottom, which apparently is just what the EyeTek controller does. IIRC, the WinX3D drivers already (or at least very soon) support dual-screen stereo, which means that it should be possible to use the dual-NTSC version with dual NTSC-out boards and the VRCaddy driver (which is based on WinX3D). | ||
| Miles Rating: N/A |
Aahh, ok I was just looking at the Eyescream site and all I could see was the shutter and red-cyan. Do you have a link for reading about WinX3D? I haven't read much about them yet. Do they use 2 cards, or a dual head card?? | ||
| Andreas Schulz Rating: N/A |
See http://www.win3d.com/ |
