| Author | Message | ||
     chrisiman Rating: N/A |
hy everyone. i would like to buy myself a ati radeon 9800pro because it is way faster than a product of nvidia. but i do have a elsa revelator shutter glass. is there a ati support for this glasses?? i know nvidia supports it - thats why i always took nvidia. thx for the help and greetings christopher | ||
| Aussie Rating: N/A |
Hi Christopher, I had an ATI Radeon 9700 pro - which did not support stereo. Had to go out and buy a new Geforece video card. To my knowledge, ATI do not directly support stereo. Apparantly there is third party software that may let you do it - but with no direct support - probably a pain in the backside to get working. Hope this helps Aussie | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
edimensional has software for ati cards and the latest version works pretty well. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Edimensional software Works well...hmmmm. Its does not do page flipping, it only supports a limited number of titles, it produces a much much lower image quality, it has been a pain to get working up till now, is a wrapper around ati's drivers so has a bigger performence hit and suffers from more compatability issues etc etc | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
that's not true, it's not a wrapper at all. That would be impossible based on how the driver works. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
This has been discussed many times. It is a wrapper. ATI have not let edim or anyone else access to the drivers source code so how can it be integrated into their catalyst driver? Please don't make claims that you don't seem to have either researched or thought through. The number one headache caused on all these forums is people who have an ATI card who try to get the edimensional drivers to work. Please stop ignoring the facts. Image quality, ease of use and the fact that Nvidia's driver is part of their actual video drivers (the stereo driver download 'enables' that functionality) means that Nvidia have the best solution by far. Edims 'drivers' are a wrapper around either matrox, ati or whoevers elses video card drivers - else it could not work with all of them it would only work with one. As such they suffer greater compatibility issues (which even a brief look at any of these forums will tell you is true). Lower image quality - interlaced (which halfs the vertical res of screen in order to render the two different perspectives). And a more limited number of supported games. In short the consensus on this and most other boards is that for a less hassle based stereo experience people are wise to buy a Nvidia NOT an ATI card. If people could charge you for all the dissappointment and time they will be wasting with an ATI edim set up I think you'd soon realise the actual cost of what you are claiming. Care to give me back god knows how many nights of fiddling and downloading? No I didn't think so, I went from an 9800pro to 6800GT and now I can actually play games in 3d stereo again! | ||
| dave Rating: N/A |
The driver does not use interlaced format. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Dave what format does it use then? The edim driver also offers no support for OpenGL games.. | ||
| dave Rating: N/A |
It uses over/under. It also does support OpenGL, just not on some of the latest titles. If you're talking about ease of use, actually the ed drivers have more functions built in than the nvidia does. not perfect, but continuing to get better... | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Dave, you need to do a little more reseach before making such outlandish claims. Over and Under is interlaced mate. Check this page out for a clear explaination of each mode: http://www.x3dshop.com/techsupport/reference/controller.html As for more functionality in edims drivers you have can never have used Nvidias. Nvidia - test application Nvidia - medical test application Nvidia - pre configured for 300-400 games Nvidia - support Directx and Open GL Nvidia - support for page flip Nvidia - support for aa Nvidia - support for hardware T&L Nvidia - support for anaglyph Nvidia - support for custom anaglyph Nvidia - support for in game cross hairs Nvidia - support for in game gamma Nvidia - support for dual projectors/HMDs Nvidia - support for hot keys that actually work Nvidia - support Unix, win98se, xp and 2000 Nvidia - drivers that work 90% of the time very well I could go on and on and on but there is no point. You are obviously an ATI/edim fan boy. Except in this there is no grey ground regarding performence. Its simply what works and what doesn't. ATI edim doesn't (if it does then not very well and only in a few dx titles) and Nvidia does (very well and for the majority of games). As this will effect someones experience of 3d stereo, their pocket, eat up their leisure time and make them frustrated in the extreme should they take your advice I think that you are being unkind in the extreme. | ||
| Dave Rating: N/A |
All I can say is you are obviously using outdated software. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Dave stop being trolling. Where are the facts to base that claim? How on earth do you know what I have? Where is your factual information about edim? First you say its not a wrapper. It is. The you say it supports OpenGL - it doesn't, its just that some Open Gl titles allow you to use DirectX exetenions instead of using OpenGl to controil rendering (Seious Sam springs to mind as you can choose in the setup menus at a performence cost of course to its native OpenGL). Then you claim it uses Over and under as opposed to interlaced. Well Dave, how do you think the image is put back together then...yep you guessed it by being interlaced. Then you say edims drivers have more functionality than Nvidias...well where is your list of that functionality then. Simply you can't list one. Image quality - poorer due to half the res 'Hit' on fps...poorer due to the extra overhead a wrapper intails... As for them working in as many games, well the only posts on any boards are about how they don't work. Not just in one or two games but simply don't work. Having struggled with edim and ATI 9800 Pro for over a year, and I am technically astute and capable, I'd rather let people know about the grief, wasted money and wasted time edim and ATI have cost me. Of course people are free to ignore advice. But the advice is given to help people and make their lives easier - not to premote a product or company. No one here is a 'fanboy'. | ||
| Anonymous Rating: N/A |
Here's someones recent experience with the latest driver and an ATI9800XT. Check out the last post in the thread: EDimensional now has an ATI driver -- for E-D owners ONLY We should try and keep this at the top to help stop people wasting their money and time. By the way I have edims glasses and they are brillient - with my nvidia card. |
