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Anonymous

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Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

has anyone got these to work? im using a chaintech gf4ti 42 8x 64 meg card and i cant get these damn things to turn on. the stereo effect on screen engages but the glasses themselves never do. weird thing is, the msi 3d theater works (the glasses turn on), but no 3d games. ive used all kinds of driver combos/monitors/winxp and win98 and the damn things just wont work... i know they are newer than the newest official nvidia drivers, and i havent found ANY documentation online about them. if anyone can help, i would greatly appreciate it. msi tech support blows, and judging from what ive read nvidia doesnt answer emails. furthermore, arent we looooong overdue for a stereo driver update???
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

###i know they are newer than the newest official nvidia drivers###

What is newer? The glasses or the MSI driver or something else?

Have you tried the inofficial nVidia 43.x stereo driver?

Is 3D-theater identical with 3dplus? (see http://www.stereo3d.com/3dplus_software.htm) Does it show a color-line-code at startup on the top of the screen? Does it use over-under sync-doubler mode?

If your VGA-board has 2 VGA-outputs, try the other one!

If your monitor has DDC try to disable it. If your monitor has 2 VGA-inputs, one without DDC, use the non-DDC one.

Christoph
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

yeah, ive tried all kinds of driver combos.

the msi theater has a green line that flashes at the top of the screen right before the image goes to 3d. then when you come out of it (disable stereo), there are two images on top of another for a split second, so i dont know if that sync doubling.

i will try the other output on my VGA card.

can you give any pointers on disabling DDC?

and why does the theater work, but not the nvidia drivers?

thanks so much christoph!!!!

billy
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Andreas Schulz

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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

From a quick search, the MSI VGA pass-through controller is mounted to a cardslot-backplane with internal power supply. No manual controls, similar to the i-Art Eye3d PCI.
Apparently no way to activate the controller for the NVidia driver's page-flip format but with color line codes, so you should try to get the Eye3D activator (see at http://www.iart3d.com/hotweek/download/downsright.htm ).
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Anonymous

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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

awesome. thanks so much. ill try it later on tonite, hopefully this will get me somewhere seeing as my geforce card only has one vga out. msi should get on the ball with this and come out with their own activator. i think this will be the last msi product i use. i got burned earlier this year when i purchased one of their motherboards (KT400 ultra). if anyone else has any more tips, they'd gladly be welcomed. thanks so much again, andreas and christoph!
billy
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Andreas Schulz

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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

P.S.: The MSI controller, like similar other dongle-style controllers, might also react to the Revelator control signal on VGA pin #12. In this case, the monitor may block this signal - try if the glasses start to flicker in stereo mode when you disconnect the monitor.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

MSI is offering these glasses for use with the nVidia driver, so I would expect them to react to the Revelator-trigger.

Theater obviously uses color-line code control and sync-doubling, while nVidia uses Revelator code and page-flipping.

The nVidia driver supports some other triggers too (ASUS, StereoGraphics), but they don't work well (see http://www.stereo3d.com/news/news0062.html ).

Christoph
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Aig

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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 5:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

To Christoph Bungert
>The nVidia driver supports some other triggers too (ASUS, StereoGraphics), but they don't work well ...
StereoGraphics mode works well, at least in my case(SimulEyes).
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Anonymous

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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

ok guys heres what ive come up with:
the eye 3d activator will activate the flicker using sync doubling, but it wont work with the nvvidia driver, the glasses are on but the display is jacked. ive tried unplugging the monitor while using nvidias stereo test and the glasses did not flicker when i unplugged it. should i just go into the registry and change some values? what stereotype should i use? should i add the colorline code? (the link you posted says nothing about MSI's product, so im in the dark here) i think thats the only way they'll work with the nvidia driver.

as always thanks so much for your time!
billy
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

In the Eye3D Activator you have to choose page-flipping, not sync-doubling.

Christoph
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Anonymous

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Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

ok. i've tried them using all different stereoviewer types. ive tried using the colorlinecode. ive used the activator (page flipping this time :P). and ive removed the #12 pin (using an old voodoo2 pass through cable), re-installed the 44.03 drivers & stereo drivers and still no luck. i dont know anything about the DDC, but if its relavent, ive used this monitor with elsa revelators before... you guys have anymore suggestions?
thanks again!
billy
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Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I admire you on the willingness to share this info with others - good luck!

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