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Mr_Messias

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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 3:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I am getting my self a pair of E-D glasses and a top of the line gfx card (radeon 9700 or geforce FX)
I have been reading around a little and heard evrybody talking about how screwed you are if you want to run stereo 3d on a radeon.
But in the WINx3Ds compabilety list it says radeon 9700 is suported and works with directx8 aplications. So wouldent it work fine if i ran vrcaddypro under windows ME with directx8 ? I see no need to get directx9 yet as there probably wont be any dirctx9 games for a while. And i have boath Windows ME and XP. and use ME moastly for gameing.
So wath is bad about vrcaddypro ? Do it run slower or give bad qualety stereo 3d ? Or is it infact not compatibel with all dirctx8 aplications ?
I would just hate to buy that overpriced 52db vacumcleaner over the faster 9700.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 1:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

I have no ATI board, so I haven't tried VRCaddy on ATI yet. On nVidia VRCaddy is a mess, but that's understandable, since the developers know that nVidia user don't need VRCaddy.

I know ATI boards are the main focus of the VRCaddy developers and they do the best they can to stay with ATI-driver, DirectX and game developments.

However behind VRCaddy is a small company and as far as I know they have no partner contracts with ATI or MS.

nVidia is a big player and the stereo-functions are embedded into the reference driver.

VRCaddy and WINx3D are wrappers by 2 different companies, so you have 4 different pieces of software which have to work together, the ATI-driver, VRCaddy, WINx3D and the game. Good luck.

Stereo quality is another issue. In the past I wasn't too lucky with VRCaddy here. nVidia goes to great length to provide individual configuration files for each game ever released. The results are often mindblowing.

nVidia always uses full-res page-flipping, while new versions of VRCaddy usually start with half-res-line-blanking. Later they try to get full-res working utilizing WINx3D. The eDimensional glasses can handle line-blanking, but you have to mess with some software activator each time.

VRCaddy is a nice tool for people who already bought a VGA-board and don't want to switch.

Go ahead and buy a Radeon if stereo-gaming isn't your priority.

Christoph
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Mr_Messias

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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 3:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Damn. Ah well, thanks for the info i already feel sorry for my ears =(
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Mr_Messias

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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 3:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Oh yeah and i also read somwhere Wicked 3D drivers wont work. Does that also go for the latest eyeSCREAM 2000 5.02 ?
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VRCaddy

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Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

We pay more attention to Windows2000 & XP, so putting more effort on our VRCaddyXP.
One thing to correct about the words by Christoph is 'Half-pageflip'. It was 2 years ago that we first released VRCaddyMe, which displays in half-pageflip. Since we released VRCaddyPro and VRCaddyXP, it is all 'Full-pageflip'.
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

Actually I didn't say a word about half-res-page-flipping, but half-res-line-blanking. Line-blanking means always half-res of course.

That's exactly what happened with the last version of VRCaddyXP. First you released the line-blanking version and weeks later the beta test for the page-flipping version starts.

Anyway, keep going, ATI is a large market.

Christoph
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Christoph Bungert (Admin)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post

### the latest eyeSCREAM 2000 5.02

This 'latest' version is terribly old, 1.5 years or something. Wicked3D eyeSCREAM is discontinued. The company behind this driver - Metabyte - still exists, but they left the stereo-market.

As far as I know some of the former eyeScream staff is now working for nVidia on the reference stereo driver.

Christoph

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